Chilly after Columbus Day, but any flakes?
October 9th, 2009 at 10:40 pm by Don Paul under Weather Watch 4
After a pretty nice Columbus Day, some showers will likely move in later in the evening and continue into at least a portion of Tuesday, with chillier temps moving in and staying for awhile. Any lake shwrs Tue night will be lighter, on a NWly flow, but a few flakes could mix in over the hills. 850mb temps will be cold enough for flakes or a mix midweek, but no significant disturbance will be around to tap the cold air. By Friday, a deepening low in the southern plains may move toward the Appalachians. Earliest indications point to a cold rain developing for Friday, but there might be a mix in spots at the outset.
Gee wiz, between el nino and the low lake temp I feel like this winter may be a lot like the Bills season; over before it really got started
Ouch Nick. LOL
New thread soon Don?
Cool,im starting to slightly understand this weather stuff. I can understand how a person can be drawn to weather theres so much to learn. i know its the tip of the iceberg,but its very interesting.
Don, my 13 year old son is very interested in meteorology,Im sure there is a lot of schooling involved but maybe you can give me some insight on just how much, and locally are ther decent programs/schools.
Do you think mother nature is a bills fan?
I’ve witnessed plenty of games when we played the Dolphins, or the cardinals when Ma Nature showed her teeth. Anyone remember that punt from the endzone against Phoenix (at the time) and when the ball was kicked and a squall blew in off the lake and knocked the ball straight up and then eventually backwards? Ah, memories.
And yes, it was the Phoenix punter that kicked the ball.
TS, I remember that game. The punter couldn’t even keep his head up. His jersey was flapping like a flag in a hurricane.
Heatmiser;
The nearest b.s. degree program is at SUNY Brockport. SUNY also offers meteorology at Oswego, Oneonta, Stony Brook, and SUNY Albany.
In general, a meteorologist needs a b.s. degree–an absolute requirement to work as a met at the NWS.
Thanks Don, if indeed he’s serious,(time will tell)we’ll take that into consideration.
If he’s serious, I hope he’s not overly intimidated by math and physics. There are many other colleges and universities which offer meteorology as a major. Google AMS and check out their education links.
Nice day for grilling outside.
Really neat webpage:http://www.weatherexplained.com/Vol-4/2001-Buffalo-New-York-BUF.html
http://www.weatherexplained.com/Vol-4/2001-Buffalo-New-York-BUF.html
Don what sticks out to me the most, is looking at the avg’s from 1970 to 2001, there were quite a few october, nov, dec and jan that were warmer than the infamous 1996 to 1997 super el-nino. Still hope on the horizon?
That el nino was 97-98, not 96-97. Makes a big difference, TS.
Pay particular note to Jan and especially February of 98.
What sticks out to me is that Dec of 97 didn’t look out of place, but when you get to Jan and Feb you can see the warming. I think another time frame that is very interesting is how warm Dec of 84 was and how bitter cold January 05 was, of course when the Blizzard of 85 hit.
The January 19th pattern change was mainly due to a dramatic pattern change in which a persistent warm ridge over the east broke down and gave way to a high amplitude long wave trough. That pattern change was linked with a phase change to a strongly negative NAO.
Feb 98 was a month with the peak signal from that el nino. An incredibly mild and dry month, with just 1.8″ of snow.
Hey don i just found a real cool website from Cornell Uni on our daily avg to this point and we are well off the mark as one might deduce. Take a look to anyone interested:
http://www.nrcc.cornell.edu/#
We are almost 6.5 degrees avg colder this month than avg and quite a bit colder than the mean avg from last October.
If this keeps up for the month we could be looking at one of the colder Octobers over the last 35 yrs or so, with 72, 76, (of course) and 88 being potentially colder.
It’s obviously not keeping up this week, TS.
NEW THREAD IS UP.